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"Red" Album Discussion - 8 Years Later

2020.10.22 05:55 Enchanted13 "Red" Album Discussion - 8 Years Later

We're curious to know:

Taylor Swift - Red

Release Date: October 22, 2012
Label: Big Machine Records
Genre: Pop
Length: 65:11

Tracklist

No. Title Writer(s) Producer(s) Length
1. "State of Grace)" Taylor Swift Nathan Chapman) • Swift 4:55
2. "Red)" Swift Dann Huff • Chapman • Swift 3:43
3. "Treacherous" Swift • Dan Wilson) Wilson 4:02
4. "I Knew You Were Trouble" Swift • Max MartinShellback) Martin • Shellback 3:39
5. "All Too Well" Swift • Liz Rose Chapman • Swift 5:29
6. "22)" Swift • Martin • Shellback Martin • Shellback 3:52
7. "I Almost Do" Swift Chapman • Swift 4:04
8. "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" Swift • Martin • Shellback Martin • Shellback 3:13
9. "Stay Stay Stay" Swift Chapman • Swift 3:25
10. "The Last Time)" (featuring Gary Lightbody) Swift • Lightbody • Jacknife Lee Lee 4:59
11. "Holy Ground" Swift Jeff Bhasker 3:22
12. "Sad Beautiful Tragic" Swift Chapman • Swift 4:44
13. "The Lucky One" Swift Bhasker 4:00
14. "Everything Has Changed" (featuring Ed Sheeran) Swift • Sheeran Butch Walker 4:05
15. "Starlight" Swift Huff • Chapman • Swift 3:40
16. "Begin Again)" Swift Huff • Chapman • Swift 3:57

Deluxe Tracklist

No. Title Writer(s) Producer(s) Length
1. "The Moment I Knew" Swift Chapman • Swift 4:45
2. "Come Back... Be Here" Swift • Wilson Wilson 3:42
3. "Girl at Home" Swift Chapman • Swift 3:40
4. "Treacherous"(original demo recording) Swift • Wilson Wilson 3:59
5. "Red"(original demo recording) Swift Chapman • Swift 3:46
6. "State of Grace"(acoustic version) Swift Chapman • Swift 5:22
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2020.09.24 18:32 CyrusWaugh Red (2012) All Songs Ranked

We are now going all the way back to 2012, the Red Era of Taylor Swift, Red is the most interesting album of 2012, and I'd argue this is the most important album in Taylor Swift's discography, it is considered by many to be her last country album, I honestly disagree, Speak Now was her true farewell to her country, this is a pop record and you can't really change my mind on that, it was definitely mislabeled but that doesn't mean its terrible because of that, I love Red, and out of all the artists doing the bubblegum pop style, like Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry, Selena Gomez etc. Taylor without a doubt did it the best. There are some really good country moments on it but we'll get there. Red was a proper transition from country to pop and while I mostly prefer her country songs and records, this was really the only option for her, Let's save that discussion for the 1989 era.

16. Starlight
Don't confuse this with magnificence that is Jon Pardi's Starlight, now while I don't hate Starlight or really dislike it, I'm not a fan of it, at the top of personal sound for me, its Appalachian, Texas, Honky Tonk, 2010's Pop, Southern Rock, Bro, and so on so forth but at the bottom is punk/alternative and bubblegum pop. This is definitely a jam but the writing level honestly is at the level of Bro Country Writers, and Bro country songs aren't necessarily terrible, they aren't really interesting, I'd put this in the bin of forgettable TS songs, not the bad ones, still if you want to jam out and feel a wave of nostalgia to the good ol 2012-2013 days, this song is for you.

15. Sad Beautiful Tragic
Don't get me wrong the song sounds amazing, and her voice is impeccable on it, but this literally has the shortest amount of lyrics and most of them rhyme with each other, I'll give most a pass if you do it like once, but when you do it multiple times that isn't brilliant. This the purest personification of a mixed bag, and it hurts me to put it this low but I need to stay objective, because I adore everything else about this song, but I have to call out significant problems when I see them, in defense of the lyrics they do have amazing details but over-reliance of the chorus puts this second to last.

14. Everything Has Changed (ft. Ed Sheeran)
This is my dream pop collaboration, similar to the dream that Eric Church & Chris Stapleton will do a song together, but they really played it safe for this track, because the chorus is literally copy and paste over and over, which is a disappointment as these 2 are some of the best song writers in the pop world. But they blend together perfectly, production wise this is one of my favorites. Red as a whole most people can agree dipped in terms of quality songwriting. And while this record has the least 6/10's for any album from her, it is flooded with 7/10's which kinda makes sense, she was entering uncharted waters so they had to play it safe for their first real attempt at pop.

13. Holy Ground
I feel these lyrics belong to another song, as the tone of the instrumentals convey a different message, which makes this a weird listen, from what I can tell its her trying to remember the good times of a relationship rather than acknowledge the bad which she's prone to dude, showing how much she's grown since 2006. And at the same time while the relationship ended and the media and paparazzi portrayed it as another failed fling for her, she views it completely different. While I do not really share a passion as this one friend, I'll jam to this one regardless, its a good song for the road, absolutely a stepping stone for her songwriting even though it wasn't as big I'd hope it would be.

12. Stay Stay Stay
This is like Biscuits, but for pop. It's definitely is one of my favorites, for its hilarious lyrics, the more hilarious a song is, the more I give it a slide for the repetitiveness. How the little things can make a relationship work wonders, whereas other romantic interests would just air their dirty laundry, at this point this was the most fun she's had vocally, from here on out we've escaped the bland side of the record, and we get into the more fun, intellectual songs.

11. 22
I know a club anthem when I see it, and this is my jam, its pretty dull lyrically, but club anthems aren't supposed to be brilliant, you're supposed to dance and have fun, this song accomplishes that goal. Now I'm 17 and still have 5 years to go before I can relate to this, and while I don't really dance and highly doubt I will ever enter a club because I see them as tedious, when I walk home I look around making sure no is around me and I turn this on and let go of all my inhibitions and let my crappy dance moves take over. A great pop song, and hints at her eventual farewell the country music world.

10. The Lucky One
Take a shot for every time she mentions the word lucky and come back
Drunk yet, okay lets continue. This is one of the most honest songs on Red, how everyone thinks Taylor is one of the luckiest people on earth, but behind closed doors, she faces high expectations from everyone, she dates people she's never met to maintain an image, all while the media and hostile a holes criticize and question her lifestyle, like I've said before she's taken a lot of hits during this time of her career, people saying she's fake, she's not that nice, a lot of it is BS. And the song, how most will call her beautiful and she feels more confused than ever, I especially love the lyric, "chose the rose garden over Madison square" talking about how people interpret her legacy, which is heartbreaking, thankfully this song hasn't aged well and she is making some of the best music in her career 8 years later.

9. The Last Time (ft. Gary Lightbody)
I love how they allow the piano chords to set the melancholic tone. It has an amazing build up, where a couple is a pivotal moment, where this dude, who keeps leaving is telling her this is the last time and she says this is the last time she's asking him not to leave. The cleverness of it astounds me as it is a really simplistic. However the bridge and on is definitely dull. The harmonies between the 2 are amazing and one of her best collaborations, as she doesn't do many, which is really surprising.

8. Treacherous
This song is about going in a downwards spiral knowing it will lead to problems but regardless she'll go into this. There are some relationships like this, where it's really about the quick rush two people feel but overtime you see what this is doing to you and it can no longer work. The love is a temptation one can't resist, and she's been in relationships very similar to this but even though the outcome is the same, she wouldn't have it any other way. Production is a the glaring problem with me, it feels like the spammed echoes for this song, and I have a little trouble hearing Taylor's voice clearly, but still the song is great.

7. Red
The opening lyrics, perfectly describe her feelings towards a lot of her past relationships. How it is pictured as glamorous but overtime you realize this relationship is a dead end. Lyrically the song rules, with how she compares relationships common things, you wouldn't think of putting in a song, for example comparing fighting to an unsolvable crossword, using blue represent sadness, grey for loneliness and red for what I can assume to be passion. But I have to address the elephant in this song which the awkward reverb like pronunciation of Red, which feels extremely out of place, you had me for up until then, and it kind of went a little downhill for me. Still Red excels in every other aspect, it is catchy, well written, instrumentally great and vocally well sung, but that stupid production choice ruins the experience.

6. I Knew You Were Trouble
It was at this point, I knew Taylor's days in country were ending, this is a pop song and refuses to have anything to do with country. Which was the right thing to do, cutting ties to it and pushing it strictly to pop gave me a new level of respect for her as an artist, she wasn't playing the game like Sam Hunt, releasing pop songs in country. She respectfully cut her ties to the genre with this. And this sounds awesome, it is an instant ear worm, and the pop production really hits you in the face, its bombastic, making a statement to the world. Talking about a douche bag, who paid little to no attention to her but had a charm, and slowly she realizes being with him was a mistake and blames herself, how he views partners as something for the media eat up rather than for love. Maybe I'm over ranking this and should be like #10 or #9, but to me with this was a statement, showing that the best was yet to come.

5. We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together
It's a jam, what else is there really to say, I wouldn't call this country per say, but then again I wouldn't have counted much of anything 2012-2013 country too, but if you're gonna do it might as well be good. Similar production to Trouble, but while that is a bit darker, this takes on a more fun tone. I find it absolutely funny that way she says "Some Indie Record That's Much Cooler Than Mine" like I said I'm probably over ranking this but I got to give credit where credits due, these two are smash hits, I think From The Ground Up is the best Dan + Shay song, but I listen to Tequila more than any other song from them, this song really captured the vibe of 2012 pop era and was one of the best singles at the time.

4. I Almost Do
I almost do, targets Taylor's fears, as this dude wants to reconnect with her, and she remains distant, not because the dude was a jerk but because she knows she would go back to him without thinking twice. But she's afraid of losing him again, because that is the worst feeling in the world, so she remains inactive towards him. Fears drive some of our worst decisions, and if we don't control them scenarios like this will occur. The acoustic work is before the bridge is executed well, I Almost Do's narrative is really unique in her catalogue, the only other song close to this is Cornelius Street, a song from an album 7 years later.

3. State Of Grace
One of the best openings to an album ever. With this you can tell the Tim McGraw/Mean part of career was fading, I think the echoey production actually works here, I wish I saw this song live, it must've been amazing, one of the best descriptions of falling in love, love is ruthless and if you go in without the right intentions it won't end good. How this relationship is a state of grace, armor of insecurities and fear fall off, this song is so uplifting message I'm a little upset this was never released as a single, out of all that was being to released to country, this would've fit in fine, before the bro age fully took over. This song turned a new page and entered a new chapter in her career as an artist, some view it as a negative turn, some view it as a positive, I see it as positive, and for the best.

2. Begin Again
The last song on the record really knocks it out of the park, and ironically one of the best closings to an album ever. How being so used to a terrible form of a relationship, you find someone who is decent, and kind, and it kinda shatters your current perspective of love, which is taking and burning, it is more giving and receiving, how little things like laughing at jokes, showing up early, getting someones chair, can do so much. Begin Again shows love isn't something inconceivable, you just haven't met the right person for you. Vocally its so relaxing, instrumentally I get to hear the steel, fiddle, and I want to say Organ, I'm not entirely sure. In all honesty this was her last country single for the next 7 years. A beautiful farewell to genre that made her who she was.

1. All Too Well
This one has a Bruce Springsteen type of rhythm to it, and whenever an artist uses that style you know this song is going to take you back, apparently All To Well was around 20 minutes longs, JESUS!!! I'd still would've wanted that if I'm honest. About remembering both the good and bad of a relationship, and in order to move on to another relationship you have to acknowledge both, and honestly the better parts of relationship can hurt even more than worse parts, as those are something we want to forget whereas the good parts, the memories of happiness serve as a painful reminder. This is the most well rounded song of the bunch, it certainly isn't the best produced, nor the catchiest, but it is able to capture everything I love about Red, from the compelling lyricism to stunning vocals to the ability to connect to her listeners on a whole other level compared to her peers in the pop world.

Red was the end of her career in country, and marked the beginning of something that would revolutionize music forever, tomorrow I review 1989, Reputation, Lover And Folklore, all 4 pop albums at once, what are your thoughts of Red, what are your favorite tracks?
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2020.09.05 05:19 doparosh Without any doubt, Taylor Swift is a carefully manufactured pop star designed for commercial success.

"I hate this. Taylor has a team of people behind her, no, an army of people, from producers to song writers, managers.. you name it. So I hate that she has so many fans and people believe thats purely due to her musical talent. She's an icon no doubt but she also has the biggest music machine behind her shilling her albums and making her out to be more of a person than who she is."
On the production of her music
first three albums were literally produced by one guy only, nathan chapman by the way, taylor's debut was the first ever album he produced. he was literally a guy making demos in nashville behind the publishing company. taylor literally had to choose a producer for her debut and she picked this guy. she also co-produced lp2 and 3 with him on the next album, red, she started working with the max martin-shellback production duo, who were credited on 3 main singles while still co-producing half of the tracks with chapman. the rest of the tracklist was handled individuallyby 4 much less known producers (one of which was snow patrol's long time producers who was brought in for the gary lightbody feature) for 1989 she decided to trust martin-shellback duo for 7/13 tracks, which was a logical move given the album's aesthetics. on this record she started co-producing songs with the guitarist from fun, jack antonoff. this decision proved to be very fruitful, as this production duo released some of her sonically most thought-out tracks to date reputation was completely produced by martin-shellback and swift-antonoff, splitting it almost equally between themselves lover was mainly produced by swift-antonoff, with 4 tracks handled by swift-little(known for producing the entirety of lorde's heroine) and the other 3 tracks by swift-bell-dukes(the latter two being known for producing tracks for hip-hop artists mainly) for folklore she had swift-dessner production duo for the lion's share of the record. the remaining 5 tracks were produced by swift-antonoff
On writing her songs
as far as co-writers are considered, she basically only had real co-writing personnel on her first two records, which is a standard procedure for almost any new young nashville artist not to mention most of these co-writing credits are by liz rose her third was completely self-written with 1989 (bar the 3 singles from red) she started releasing music more relying on computer-created sounds, so it was only natural for producers of those tracks to also get co-writing credits there, hence the number of co-writers on her tracks since then also you have to note that swift-antonoff also falls into this category, meaning that most of the songs credited to this production duo also have antonoff with co-writing credits on them co-writing credits for people who didn't have production credits for said tracks are rarely to be found in her catalogue since red
In conclusion
if you count out the the minor contributors (10-15 musicians contributing to combined 15 tracks total) you are left with only five (plus taylor) people in charge of production through the course of 8 albums. given that dessner has only worked on folklore, you can even narrow it down to only 3 musical entities until last year
as far as writing credits go, the majority of tracks which were co-written had the co-writing credits because of the raw sonical impact the producers have with the kind of music taylor's been making since 2012. the rest of the co-written tracks are mostly credited to granny liz rose back in taylor's yee-haw days
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2020.05.25 05:22 RainBowSwift71532 Taylor Swift Quiz.

While I'm sure everyone knows about her previous relationships and ongoing feud with Kanye West, only true Swifties know what her favorite number is, all the easter eggs, hidden messages, and who/what each and every song is about.
So here I have a Taylor Swift quiz comprised of 30 questions.
So it's time to be Fearless, grab a Permanent Marker, put on your junior jewels t-shirt and Speak Now - How many of these quiz questions can you get right?
Are you Ready for It?

  1. What is Taylor's date of birth?
December 13th, 1989
  1. What is her mom's name?
Andrea Swift
  1. In the music video for Teardrops on My Guitar, what color is the gown Taylor wears?
>! Green !<
  1. Which famous person was Starlight written for?
>! Ethel Kennedy (Bobby Kennedy's wife)!<
  1. What emoji inspired a major theme of the reputation album?
The snake emoji
  1. What type of weather features heavily in Taylor's songs?
>! Rain!<
  1. After discovering a famous thread about herself, Taylor wore a top saying 'No, it's ....'?
>! Becky!<
  1. The intro to Last Kiss is exactly 27 seconds long, said to represent what?
The length of the phone call with Joe Jonas when he broke up with her
  1. After dropping Netflix documentary Miss Americana what song did Taylor release?
Only the Young
  1. What month does Taylor sing about 'going back to all the time'?
December
  1. In her debut album Taylor Swift, what was the name of the song that told a story about two kids' daddies 'joking 'bout the two of us', but not thinking they'd grow up to fall in love?
Mary's Song (Oh My, My, My)
  1. Taylor dressed up as who when she performed Frozen with Idina Menzel on the 1989 tour?
>! Olaf!<
  1. Taylor appeared on the cover of Vogue with which friend?
>! Karlie Kloss!<
  1. In what Love Actually style movie did Taylor star in?
>! Valentine's Day!<
  1. What are the names of Taylor's three cats? (Both first and last names)
Meredith Grey, Olivia Benson, and Benjamin Button
  1. How many specific London locations does Taylor mention in 'London Boy' and can you name them all?
>! 9! (Camden, Highgate, The West End, Brixton, Shoreditch, Hackney, Bond Street, Soho, Hampstead Heath - 'the Heath' in the song)!<
  1. How old was Taylor when she started writing her own songs?
12
  1. Who was 'Dear John' allegedly written about?
>! Singer John Mayer!<
  1. What is special about the farm where Taylor grew up?
>! It was a Christmas tree farm!<
  1. Which of her songs did Taylor say took the longest to write?
>! All Too Well!<
  1. Who is Taylor named after?
>! The singer James Taylor!<
  1. Finish the lyric: 'You're so gorgeous...'
'I can't say anything to your face.'
  1. How many Grammy awards has Taylor won?
>! 10!<
  1. Which Taylor song won her a Guinness World Record for the fastest-selling single?
>! We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together!<
  1. Taylor likes putting hidden messages in the lyric books of her albums. For which song was this the hidden message? 'You Thought I Would Forget'
>! Better Than Revenge !<
  1. Who did Taylor collaborate with on The Last Time?
>! Gary Lightbody, lead singer of Snow Patrol!<
  1. Taylor is dating actor Joe Alwyn, but what 2018 American drama did Joe star in alongside Troye Sivan?
>! Boy Erased!<
  1. What's Taylor's brother's name?
>! Austin!<
  1. 'Cory's eyes are like a jungle. He smiles; it's like the radio.' These are lyrics from which Taylor song?
>! Stay Beautiful!<
  1. What was the name of Taylor's app before it shut down in January 2019?
The Swift Life
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2019.10.22 22:55 Enchanted13 "Red" Album Discussion - 7 Years Later

We're curious to know:

Taylor Swift - Red

Release Date: October 22, 2012
Label: Big Machine Records
Genre: Pop
Length: 65:11

Tracklist

No. Title Writer(s) Producer(s) Length
1. "State of Grace" Taylor Swift Nathan Chapman • Swift 4:55
2. "Red" Swift Dann Huff • Chapman • Swift 3:43
3. "Treacherous" Swift • Dan Wilson Wilson 4:02
4. "I Knew You Were Trouble" Swift • Max MartinShellback) Martin • Shellback 3:39
5. "All Too Well" Swift • Liz Rose Chapman • Swift 5:29
6. "22" Swift • Martin • Shellback Martin • Shellback 3:52
7. "I Almost Do" Swift Chapman • Swift 4:04
8. "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" Swift • Martin • Shellback Martin • Shellback 3:13
9. "Stay Stay Stay" Swift Chapman • Swift 3:25
10. "The Last Time" (featuring Gary Lightbody) Swift • Lightbody • Jacknife Lee Lee 4:59
11. "Holy Ground" Swift Jeff Bhasker 3:22
12. "Sad Beautiful Tragic" Swift Chapman • Swift 4:44
13. "The Lucky One" Swift Bhasker 4:00
14. "Everything Has Changed" (featuring Ed Sheeran) Swift • Sheeran Butch Walker 4:05
15. "Starlight" Swift Huff • Chapman • Swift 3:40
16. "Begin Again" Swift Huff • Chapman • Swift 3:57

Deluxe Tracklist

No. Title Writer(s) Producer(s) Length
1. "The Moment I Knew" Swift Chapman • Swift 4:45
2. "Come Back... Be Here" Swift • Wilson Wilson 3:42
3. "Girl at Home" Swift Chapman • Swift 3:40
4. "Treacherous"(original demo recording) Swift • Wilson Wilson 3:59
5. "Red"(original demo recording) Swift Chapman • Swift 3:46
6. "State of Grace"(acoustic version) Swift Chapman • Swift 5:22
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2019.02.09 21:19 mitsumaui TIFU by missing a concert

So this FU did actually happen today!
So the story begins back in November, when I got an E-Mail that Snow Patrol were touring again after a hiatus as Gary Lightbody had been working on other projects. I excitedly at 11pm saw there was tickets available at Wembley Arena, and sat on the bed with my wife went ahead and got 3 tickets for the family. The concert is actually around my Birthday so was going to be a birthday present! Rolling forward, I got the tickets in my mail a month back, and eventually got around to printing them during the week. Put them aside to remember to pick them up before we leave! The excitement is building at this point and all looking forward to seeing them! Finding opportunities to listen to their new album when travelling in the car etc. That leads us to today, we decided on making a day of it in London, so park up at my work and catch the underground into town, where we have a nice lunch at Benihana, then a wander around the London Transport museum. Excitement totally there now as it’s now getting close to the concert, so we catch the underground back out to Wembley Park and hike over to Costco on foot to grab a snack before heading into the Arena. We find our way to the entrance, where the nice man scans our tickets - where his scanner says ‘STOP’. He said to just pop to the box office and they can get it sorted for us. As we are back tailing through the queue, to my horror I find the concert was actually the Saturday 2nd Feb and we totally missed it by a week! Cue disappointment and tears all round as we learn of our royal FU, not really knowing how we managed to screw up the dates!
So now sat in Cinema Watch HTTY Dragon writing this TIFU during the Ads still disappointed and smarting from this rather expensive FU!
TL;DR - Was meant to see Snow Patrol today, but turned out we missed it by a week.
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2018.10.22 05:58 Enchanted13 "Red" Album Discussion - 6 Years Later

We're curious to know:

Taylor Swift - Red

Release Date: October 22, 2012
Label: Big Machine Records
Genre: Pop
Length: 65:11

Tracklist

No. Title Writer(s) Producer(s) Length
1. "State of Grace" Taylor Swift Nathan Chapman • Swift 4:55
2. "Red" Swift Dann Huff • Chapman • Swift 3:43
3. "Treacherous" Swift • Dan Wilson Wilson 4:02
4. "I Knew You Were Trouble" Swift • Max MartinShellback) Martin • Shellback 3:39
5. "All Too Well" Swift • Liz Rose Chapman • Swift 5:29
6. "22" Swift • Martin • Shellback Martin • Shellback 3:52
7. "I Almost Do" Swift Chapman • Swift 4:04
8. "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" Swift • Martin • Shellback Martin • Shellback 3:13
9. "Stay Stay Stay" Swift Chapman • Swift 3:25
10. "The Last Time" (featuring Gary Lightbody) Swift • Lightbody • Jacknife Lee Lee 4:59
11. "Holy Ground" Swift Jeff Bhasker 3:22
12. "Sad Beautiful Tragic" Swift Chapman • Swift 4:44
13. "The Lucky One" Swift Bhasker 4:00
14. "Everything Has Changed" (featuring Ed Sheeran) Swift • Sheeran Butch Walker 4:05
15. "Starlight" Swift Huff • Chapman • Swift 3:40
16. "Begin Again" Swift Huff • Chapman • Swift 3:57

Deluxe Tracklist

No. Title Writer(s) Producer(s) Length
1. "The Moment I Knew" Swift Chapman • Swift 4:45
2. "Come Back... Be Here" Swift • Wilson Wilson 3:42
3. "Girl at Home" Swift Chapman • Swift 3:40
4. "Treacherous"(original demo recording) Swift • Wilson Wilson 3:59
5. "Red"(original demo recording) Swift Chapman • Swift 3:46
6. "State of Grace"(acoustic version) Swift Chapman • Swift 5:22
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2016.08.29 17:37 greenging TOP TEN POP TEN RESULTS: TAYLOR SWIFT

Gooooooooood morning popheads! I'm here with u/TheAllRightGatsby on this lovely Monday telling you to grab some coffee to cut through the post VMA haze because it's time for the results of last week's voting! Without further ado....
  1. STYLE - 1989 (297 points)
  2. All Too Well - Red (294 points)
  3. Blank Space - 1989 (280 points)
  4. Enchanted - Speak Now (251 points)
  5. Wildest Dreams - 1989 (174 points)
  6. New Romantics - 1989 (150 points)
  7. 22 - Red (149 points)
  8. Holy Ground - Red (148 points)
  9. We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together - Red (138 points)
  10. Clean - 1989 (136 points)
  11. State of Grace - Red (133 points)
  12. Love Story - Fearless (129 points)
  13. Out of the Woods - 1989 (109 points)
  14. Everything Has Changed (feat. Ed Sheeran) - Red (105 points)
  15. You Belong With Me - Fearless (104 points)
  16. I Knew You Were Trouble - Red (93 points)
  17. I Know Places - 1989 (84 points)
  18. Long Live - Speak Now (82 points)
  19. Back to December - Speak Now (79 points)
  20. Treacherous - Red (76 points)
  21. Fearless - Fearless / Wonderland - 1989 (68 points)
  22. Red / Begin Again - Red (65 points)
  23. Shake It Off - 1989 (59 points)
  24. Haunted / Ours - Speak Now (56 points)
  25. Sparks Fly - Speak Now (54 points)
There you have it folks- AN UPSET. As a Swiftie I'm appalled but as a pophead I'm overjoyed. Let's get into it. (sorry in advance this got REALLY long)
Taylor Swift is the voice of a generation. She is known for her narratives about love and personal experiences, her close relationship with her fans, and carefully crafted public appearance and persona. As of Jan. 2016 she had sold over 40 million albums, 130 million single downloads and was one of the top five music artists with the highest worldwide digital sales.
Taylor Swift was born on December 13, 1989. At age 12 she learned guitar from a computer repairman, and at age 14 was signed to RCA Records, under an artist development contract. During this period she forged a relationship with Liz Rose, who she still writes with today. Around this time her family moved from Wyomissing, PA to Hendersonville, TN.
In 2005 Swift was scouted by Scott Borchetta at Bluebird Cafe in Nashville; Borchetta was in the process of opening up his record label, Big Machine Records. Swift was one of the first artists signed to the label. Swift's father also purchased a 3% stake in the label. Work on her self titled debut began almost immediately. Swift insisted on working with Nathan Chapman, who has produced for her in some capacity ever since.
Taylor Swift was released in 2006 with the lead single Tim McGraw; is a country styled album twinged with pop. Swift wrote or co-wrote every track. The album debuted at 19 on the Billboard Top 200 albums, peaked at 5 and stayed on the list for 277 weeks. Five singles (Tim McGraw, Teardrops on My Guitar, Our Song, Picture to Burn and Should've Said No) were released to support the album. Teardrops was Swift's first (of many to come) pop crossover hits, reaching 13 on the Billboard Hot 100. Our Song was her first 1 on the Country Hot 100, and reached 16 on the Billboard Hot 100. The album has been certified platinum five times by RIAA. In support of the album Taylor opened for Rascal Flatts and George Strait, and embarked on a six month long radio tour. It was the beginning of a close personal relationship with country radio, one she maintained until her documented switch into pop music in 2014.
Fearless was released in 2008 and debuted at 1. As with her debut, Swift wrote or co-wrote all the tracks. She also gained her first producing credit. Five singles were released to promote the album (Love Story, White Horse, You Belong With Me, Fifteen and Fearless). *Love Story would become her biggest hit. The song was praised for its narrative and plot development, pairing well with Swift's wistful delivery. LS reached 4 on the Billboard Hot 100, the highest peak for a country song on a mainstream list since 1998 (Shania Twain - You're Still the One). White Horse was the second single, reaching 13 on the Billboard Hot 100. You Belong With Me was the third single, and was performed on the VMA's in 2009. While accepting the award for the Best Female Video for the song, Swift was interrupted by Kanye West who told her "Imma let you finish, but BEYONCE had the greatest video of all time, ALL TIME." West can still be found stanning for Bey today. ;)
Fearless is the most awarded country album of all time. It received the Album of the Year award at the 52nd Annual Grammy Awards, American Music Awards of 2009, Country Music Association, and Academy of Country Music Awards. Swift also received the Grammy for Best Country Album, Best Country Song and Best Country Vocal Performance. Notably Swift also received some negative feedback on her vocal performance with Stevie Nicks. Swift embarked on her first headling world tour to support the album. As an attendee of the second US leg, it was BALLIN'. Swift was very...Swift. Endearing, excited, adorable, awkward and very relate-able. It was over the top, lots of costume changes and dancers, coupled with intimate B-stage performances and acoustic numbers, things Swift has become known for. Her later tours have capitalized on these traits, and do them better ever time.
Speak Now was released in 2010. Swift penned the entire album herself, and again produced with Chapman. The record represents a shift in tone, from pop twinged country, to pop with country accents. It debuted at 1 on the Billboard charts, selling over a million copies in the first week. Swift promoted the album with a series of live performances in New York City on top of a bus and in Central Park. Every song on the album charted at some point, and is the only album to spawn 17 Hot 100 singles (four top ten, seven top twenty, and nine top thirty hits). Six official singles were released in support of the album (Mine, Back to December, Mean, The Story of Us, Sparks Fly and Ours). Swift performed Innocent, a song forgiving West for his interruption at the 2010 VMA's. She performed Mean at the Grammy's, where she was awarded Best Country Solo Performance and Best Country Song. Speak Now was also nominated for Best Country Album, but lost to Lady Antebellum. A live album chronicling the Speak Now World Tour and its' many covers during live shows was released in 2011.
Red was released in 2012. It is considered by many to be her best body of work, her magnum opus. The album represents a further shift in tone, delving further into pop melodies and more mature, emotional lyrical content. It centers on semi-toxic relationships with people and the limelight and is carefully crafted to subtly show Swift's increasing maturity. Treacherous touches on sexual relationships (I'll do anything you say/if you say it with your hands) which had only been briefly mentioned in previous albums (off the top of my head Sparks Fly is the only song that kind of goes in that direction with the lyrics 'you touch me once and it's really something/you find I'm even better than you imagined I could be' but correct me/discuss further please). The album spawned seven singles (We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, Begin Again, I Knew You Were Trouble, 22, Red, Everything Has Changed (feat. Ed Sheeran) & The Last Time (feat. Gary Lightbody)).
This was the first album on which Swift collaborated with Max Martin and Shellback, the talented pop producing duo. The trouble with Red is that it's a patchwork of genres, mostly pop with country, rock and dubstep influences. It almost does too much, which is where a lot of critics found fault with it. As Taylor goes on to say later, it is not sonically cohesive. The album was massively successful, debuting at 1 with 1.21 million albums sold in the first week. It was nominated for four Grammy's and won none. Swift performed the fan favorite All Too Well at the Grammy's that year. Swift was notably shamed for her (finger quotes) many romantic relationships over the course of the album's conception and subsequent release, leading her to not date for two years leading up to the release of 1989.
1989 was released in 2014, and is Swift's "first documented offical pop album" as said by Swift herself. The story goes that Swift lost out on Album of the Year at the 2013 Grammy's, went home and woke up at 3am with the concept for an 80's inspired pop album at 3am that morning. It is her most "sonically cohesive" work since Fearless. It features the producers: Max Martin (also exec.), Taylor Swift (also exec.), Jack Antonoff, Nathan Chapman, Imogen Heap, Greg Kurstin, Mattman & Robin, Ali Payami, Shellback, Ryan Tedder, and Noel Zancanella. Quite the switch from the early days of Swift and Chapman. Seven singles were released in support of the album: Shake It Off, Blank Space, Style, Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar), Wildest Dreams, Out of the Woods and New Romantics.
The album was supported by the 1989 World Tour, which spawned a variety of memes based off of Swift's introduction of her many special guests, most notably her squad of tall, leggy Victoria's Secret model and actress friends. Swift won the coveted Album of the Year, making her the ONLY female artist to do so. Very exciting stuff. She was also awarded Best Pop Album and Best Music Video for Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar).
Swift is diverting from her two year cycle this year, with no word on a release of a new album. (please drop something soon)
Swift has drawn a fair amount of controversy over her career, mainly for her romantic entanglements. Most recently Swift has been the center of controversy over her (previously) alleged knowledge (now known and confirmed #kimexposedtaylor oops) of Kanye West's mentioning of her in his song Famous (Swizz told me to let the beat rock...I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex/Why?/I made that bitch famous) and inclusion of a nude wax body double of Swift in the video. Swift contested that she was unaware of the line calling her a bitch, saying she wanted out of his narrative and has since 2009.
Her relationships also draw a fair amount of controversy and slut shaming- there are numerous articles calling Swift out for her boyfriends and dates, so many articles chronicling her dating life and calling her crazy. In the song Blank Space Swift embraces the narrative and becomes the boy crazy, spurned ex-lover the media makes her out to be. Nowadays she its seems a though she chooses to embrace the limelight, seen most recently in her romance with Tom Hiddleston.
Swift is also incredibly charitable, and is known for her donations to various charities and campaigns. She donated the proceeds of the promotional single, Welcome to New York to NYC schools, donated a quarter of a million dollars to Kesha's legal fund, and a million dollars to the Louisiana flood relief efforts. She started an education center in Nashville, and has supported many efforts to help kids learn to read or play music in the past.
Finally, Swift is possibly most well known for her relationship with her fans. In the liner notes of every album, there are secret notes that detail something special about the song for the fans to figure out. She follows them on Tumblr and creates playlists to get over heart break, bullying and sadness. She mails them packages and cards for 'Swiftmas' and Valentine's Day, surprises them at weddings and bridal showers, likes their photos on Instagram and favorites their tweets. Taylor has crafted a close, personal relationship with her fans, something unlike most other artists.
Swift has grown up in the public eye, and has become an icon of this generation. I'm having trouble wrapping this up, possibly because of my deep attachment to her, but she's built her empire on the importance of a personal narrative. She's reminded young girls and women that having lots of feelings are GOOD and okay and totally acceptable. She's reminded us that everyone makes mistakes and has a lot to learn (her feminism could use a lot of work), and that recognizing mistakes is important. Swift is a shrewd businesswoman, but she is human and that may be her most remarkable quality. Despite the carefully crafted pop megastar persona, there's a girl under there learning and adjusting just like the rest of us.
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2013.07.24 21:08 tabledresser [Table] IAmA: I have managed bands for over thirty years and currently look after Metallica, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Jimmy Page, Muse, Josh Groban, Dawes, and others. I am Peter Mensch AMA!

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Which band has been the most difficult to work with? Smashing Pumpkins by a country mile.
Muse all seem like really great, funny guys. Any fun stories? Matt is endlessly curious. I was regaled several nights ago with a list of what constitutes Treason in England as regards the queen. This came out of the news of the new royal birth.
Are big record companies a dying breed? Yup. sadly so. what no one really understands is that the artist by himself does not achieve worldwide success without someone financing his/her record and more importantly gets into the hands of the media who can help spread the word. just how do you think one becomes big in Germany if one is a SF based metal band? it doesn't happen by osmosis.
Who has been the most humble or down to earth artist/group that you have worked with? Metallica.
Is Lars still as pissed about pirated music as he was in the 90's or has he lightened up a bit? I'M PISSED OFF ABOUT PIRATED MUSIC. Lars has lightened up.
Is there a secret Jewish cabal that controls the music industry from a hidden pile of gold like in Smaug's lair? That Cabal was taken over by Orcs.
If John Frusciante decided he wanted to play with RHCP again what do you think would happen? Would Josh get pushed aside or would they have two main guitarists? That's an interesting question and way out of my pay grade. I don't think JF is ever coming back to the music business.
Hello, Mr. Mensch, thanks for doing this AMA! As a huge fan of Metallica and a mod of /Metallica, I have a couple questions. What are some common misconceptions that people have about the band or members of the band? (i.e., Lars is an asshole after the whole Napster ordeal) What is one of the best experiences you've had with the band? Do you get to know them on a personal level, or do you just work with them? If you get to know them personally, do you have any stories that you'd like to share? Lars was standing up for artists copyrights. now ask anyone remotely involved in the music business and they will admit we were right. 10 years early. now the business is dying for artists and people like me who loved music and couldn't play a note. the best experiences are when your band's record is on the radio and you hear it. plus doing something special live. for the first time.
What was it like working with Def leppard in the 70's? Any stories from when they toured with AC/DC? I was 26, they were like 18. I was living in London (my spiritual musical home for all the bands from the 60s/70s I loved). It was a blast. I became their manager while they were on tour with AC/DC. I was managing AC/DC at the time.
Which band and/or member was the best to be around? The worst? Best bands to be around are all the current clients as for the worst client: look at the list of clients we no longer manage...actually, just some of those. i'm still in contact with Brian Wheat in Tesla who is killing it out there as their self managing bassist.
How much of a role does the music industry have in creating tastes and trends, instead of just gauging what the public wants and finding artists that fit that criteria? The music industry has tended to act like a filter. just like film studios, TV networks, book publishers. the best people in each of these industries relies on their own taste and then hopes that their taste will work for the mass audience out there. look at arrested development. died on Fox and came back on Netflix. Or who would have thought a show about a bunch of NJ Gangsters or even early 20s Jersey somethings would be successful and game changing.
Do you personally like the music of all the bands you manage? I like all the artists I manage. I don't necessarily like all the songs they write or record. But I like enough of them.
What was the worst thing you ever had an artist under you do? Nothing comes to mind on the worst thing. we sometimes try things which don't work but "worst"...I don't think so. critical enough for the song not to be recorded or finished.
Josh Groban parties the hardest right? Sure. can I have some of what you are on.
Why can't Robert Plant and Jimmy Page just get along and do a tour with John Paul Jones on bass and Jason Bonham on drums? I'm sure it has to do with financial reasons, but care to shed any light on this for me please? It goes back way further and way deeper than anyone of us can imagine or discover.
Hi Peter! Thanks for taking the time to do this AMA. I have a few questions right now (all of them Page/Zeppelin-related) -- if you're unable to answer them, I understand. :) Third: Are you able to provide any information on the "Mastered for iTunes" tracks that were released last year? As for mastered by itunes, it's better sound than normal itunes stuff. but let's be frank, sound on itunes blows compared to cd or vinyl.
Has Jimmy shown any interest in selling either of his website releases ("Lucifer Rising" or "Death Wish II") as CDs? Second: Peter, would you be able to confirm or deny whether or not the "Physical Graffiti" demos posted on Jimmy's website were vintage (i.e. dating to 1973-1975) or re-recorded? Following on from these questions: Should we consider the example of "Celebration Day," released in several formats (including BR-A and hi-res digital download), as a harbinger of things to come for the remastered Zeppelin catalogue? Have the group members indicated any interest in releasing archival recordings in a manner similar to other artists/bands (like Robert Plant himself, or along the lines of the Rolling Stones Archive)? We should sell those 2 as CDs. not a bad idea.
I have no idea about those demos.
Hi, Mr. Mensch. Thanks for this AMA. What is your take on the music game phenomenon? Muse and the Chili Peppers seem to have embraced it, while Metallica and Jimmy Page still don't seem to care a whole lot. Do you think their opinions might change with games like Rocksmith, where the player has to use a real guitar? Um, did you miss the Metallica guitar hero game?
Have you ever heard a song from a band that you manage, that was so new, so different, that you weren't sure if the song would "work"? What songs would this apply, and what was the tension like in the room when first approached w such a song? Cliff and I are never 100% sure when we select tracks to promote on radio. the biggest flyer we ever took was picking Knights of Cydonia as the first US single for Muse. "No One's Gonna Take Me Alive"
What do you think about normal people that say "i want to be a band/celebrity manager so i can be rich and hang out with famous people" when they know absolutely nothing about it? THAT THEY KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT.
Dear Mr. Mensch... as an Artist I'm well aware of the nature of Creative Projects to take on a life of their own - evolving beyond their original inspiration and intentions. Can you comment on Jimmy Page's Original Inspiration for reissuing the Led Zeppelin Catalog on Vinyl?? Beyond the success of The Song Remains The Same and the Mothership Project... has Jimmy ever expressed his awareness of the Vinyl Renaissance in Full Swing and the HUNGER for Zeppelin Vinyl? And has it been his intention to release the LP's in their Original Chronological Order... One-at-a-time and is that how you see the current project unfolding?? Lastly and MOST important... when do you think we might get a Definitive Release Date for the first installment??? Thank you very much! 1) vinyl - the previously issued vinyl was ok for the time, this will be way better 2) page loves vinyl. always has. always will. collects it. as for how quickly we release the vinyl and in what order, it will be either all at once as a box set or individually in chronological order.
B. truex ~ Hungry for Zeppelin Vinyl Reissues :>) 3) as for the release date...well, it's a moving target. LZ Time is like no other time I have ever seen
I'm a huge RHCP fan. Any awesome stories you can share? Me too. A couple of years ago, they played did 3 shows in Hyde Park in London to 255,000 people. It doesn't get better than that as a performer or a manager.
What's the most badass rock n roll escapade you've ever been sucked into? Dream on. I'm the clean and sober manager. i go to sleep way earlier than any of my artists. although I did go to a Queen party in London in the late 70s...
Who is your favorite musician off stage?? I love hearing about famous people who are genuinely good guys. Would be Lars. talk movies etc. But also Gary Lightbody, Matt and Page. basically, anyone who wants to talk about a book, a movie, a play, ways to commit treason in England. kids, school, sports. Lightbody is a demon on pop culture.
Dude, can you please get Metallica to do a US tour sometime soon, maybe next summer? THEY HAVE TO MAKE A RECORD FIRST. NO MORE TOURING UNTIL A RECORD.
I have noticed recently that the media and industry has given up on new talent. They are simply pushing new albums all the estbalished groups that hit the scene 10 years ago. Shinedown, Black Eyed Peas, Maroon 5, Justin Timberlake, etc. etc. I feel like this means we will are setting ourselves up for a whole time period that won't be remembered for new type of music (unlike music of the 60s, 70s, etc). I just wondered if you had observed the same thing and your thoughts on it? We desperately seek out new bands who want to be successful. but since we don't hang out in clubs at 2am, we usually have to wait for someone to call us up and ask for help. most new acts have managers. most new acts fail. do the math.
Hi Mr Mensch! As someone who probably knows the industry better than most, what advice would you give to a rock artist or band looking to make a viable career in the music industry? Are there specific genres or tactics that are more likely to be successful? Thanks for your time! Man, that's a tough question. Best thing to do is get your songwriting chops down. IT's all about the MUSIC. not the playing or the clothes. the songs.
Of all the artists you have managed, which album was the best? (in your opinion?) Too many to count. seriously. The one record I wish had done better was Operation Mindcrime by Queensryche. Also Screaming Trees Sweet Oblivion. Amazing record.
of all I'd like to thank you for doing another AMA. Jimmy Page is my idol and I was really pissed that I missed the last one. I have one serious question and one random question. Are there any new bands out that you and/or Jimmy are excited about? Is Jack Daniel's Jimmy's favorite drink, and if not, what is? Page doesn't drink at all. I don't know what new bands he is listening to. as for me, I tend to wait until I hear them on the radio.
Thanks for doing this AMA. You have an amazing career. My question is how does a "producer" get a job in the industry? I make musical backing tracks and have my friends sing over them, but they just sit online and garner no attention and I'm not sure where to take it next. Find someone with a connection. usually a lawyer or someone who has a connection. I wish it was easier. no one listens to unsolicited tapes anymore. you've got to write great songs (not ones your mother tells you are good), play live and keep doing it. somewhere someone will find you.
3 months ago you said that you hadn't heard the contents of the new Led Zeppelin box sets. What's the progress with them now? Can you share anymore about what's in them (video, physical items, studio outtakes, live shows)? There's been talk that they are in the final stages of being mixed. Is Eddie Kramer involved? What's in them: studio outtakes, different mixes. and eddie kramer is not involved.
a final one from me: it's been nearly two years since Jimmy last played live, which was at the Royal Festival Hall with Roy Harper. With Roy performing another special one-off concert there in October, will Jimmy be tempted to join him again? Still no progress on any solo work. also i don't know if he plans to play with roy again. he hasn't played much recently!
1.) How difficult do you think it is for someone with no connections to get into the music industry? 2.) Bonnaroo or Coachella? You have to start at the bottom. Interning either in LA or NY or trying to get a job with your local promoter or club. COACHELLA BY A MILE.
A lot of questions will probably relate to the severe changes the music industry is undergoing. Among the groups you manage(d), some are well known live tour de force, some others (not mutually exclusively) have taken a public stance against mp3 (be it legal or not). (1) As a manager, would you say that the ineluctable future for music lies in live performance vs. album, which will increasingly turn into a promotional medium? (2) What's your take when a person you manage goes public on something that is clearly not appropriate/PR friendly/plain damaging for the image of the band? What was the most difficult of such situation you encountered? If you don't eventually sell music (usually in album form) you will never get the level of success that you might have dreamed of (selling out arenas). if you don't care how successful you can become as a touring act then you don't have to worry about albums. I can't run a business managing club acts who are permanent club acts most difficult situation: death of a fan at a gig or death of a band member.
Who would be your dream band/artist to manage? Past/present, dead or alive! I'd like to see Led Zeppelin play another show.
Did you manage Metallica in the 99-00 era? Their PR department were terriblly inept and incompetent during that phase. No one was there to tell the band they were fighting a losing war??? We were right next to them. sorry, dude, I believe in their cause. you can go borrow all the music you want. and then don't complain when there is no new music that you know.
When looking for interns, what really makes a resume stand out to a management company in the music business? i applied to a bunch but didn't hear back from any. :( Beats me. we have someone here who gets them.
How much input did you have in the Orion festival and Through the Never? Do the band (that's Metallica, for those that don't know) basically say, we're doing this, can you help us out with some stuff? Do they say "is this a good idea, should we go ahead with it or not?" The idea for a festival came out of our office. so we would have some input. the band was deeply involved in the talent selection and all the side shows.
What are your thoughts on the 'loudness war' (eliminating dynamic range in favor of maximum loudness)? Certain people mix and master their records too loudly. we don't like that. and that's all I will say.
Hi Peter What are your thoughts on audio and/or video streaming of concerts like Phish has been doing? And, do you see any of the bands you manage doing something similar? I know Metallica already records and sells live shows afterwards. Why not. RHCP does it. you have to be big enough because believe it or not it costs the band money and unless you sell enough of them to break even, it isn't worth doing. also you need to have a good audio and or video setup on tour.
How did Josh Groban get thrown into that mix? Also those are some great acts you get to work with. What is MUSE like in person, they've always seemed chill in interviews, etc. (I'm seeing them for the 5th time at ACL in October, can't wait!) Thanks for doing this AMA, you've got a bitchin' job! I do have a bitchin job. And everyday I pray to every god you can imagine and some you can't thanking them for it. We've managed Madonna, Shania Twain and Josh Groban. And Gillian Welch. We just love music and musicians. And funny ones. Josh Groban is hysterical as well as musically incredibly talented.
Hello, Mr. Mensch. Thank you for doing this AMA. You've had an amazing career and have worked with some of the people who have inspired me the most in the entire world. I currently play in a band that has been playing locally for the last couple of years. Our plan for the next year is to step it up and start touring regionally. We've got some good contacts and a great fan base that is super supportive of us. We even started a local music festival that is intended to expose and develop the fantastic music scene we have here in my home town. We are about to release our first studio EP which we will pimp out to as many music blogs as possible. I would ask you for advice, but it seems that your advice is to keep doing what we are doing and hope that someone discovers us one day. I'm a little more pro-active than that, but it'll do. What are, if any, your favorite music blogs or podcasts to find new music? If not, then where do you go to find new music? What is your favorite new act that is playing now? You've got it down. pimp your music out to as many blogs as possible. just make sure that someone you trust says the stuff is great. not just good or very good. but GREAT. there is no room anymore for anything else. favorite new act (not so new) is Florence and the Machine. she has a real stage presence. I miss real stage presence. I want to be led by a singer
I've been curious about the various identities that rock bands generate for themselves. Overall, do band mates resemble more there personas or are they just usual, artists who have to put on an act? All members of any band I have managed have always wanted to perform. start with your memories of having to stand up in Miss Taylor's 3rd grade class and read or do something. Some of you loved it, most hated it. band members loved it and usually have something to prove or say so they like performing. usually off stage they take off the cape and tights and become normal people.
Hello! Do you personally handle their tour arrangements? For example, did you negotiate the RHCP deal to headline Coachella? If so, can you describe how that experience is? In this case, I made that deal fresh off a plane from Australia over a mexican meal with Paul Tollett somewhere in Hollywood. it didn't take long. but that is a rare occurence.
Looking to hire anyone fresh out of college? If not, do you have any advice for people looking to get into the industry? We start with interns. we pay them minimum wage. sorry, it's the only way in.
Hi! I was just wondering how you actually get gigs for bands. When I went to the Voodoo Music Festival in New Orleans last year, Green Day dropped out, and Metallica filled in (super awesome). Did the promoters of the festival approach you, or did you approach the promoters? It was the promoters. because as you so acutely point out, they were short a headliner. have rock, will travel on short notice. happened again at this year at Roskilde.
If you could manage any band you wanted, wich band would you manage? I can't give that away. Other managers would hate me.
Do you agree that spotify and Pandora (streaming services in general) are screwing bands out of royalties. If so, what can and should be done not only by bands, but consumers as well? This is way too complicated to be answered here. Consumers should buy albums if they want to keep bands in business. full stop.
Hello. What is your opinion on the economics of streaming? Do you feel music catalogs will grow in value? Large catalogs getting played alot will make money. like the 200+ Beatles songs will get streamed a lot and the Beatles will make money.
Hey, great bands! My grandfather used to be a concert promoter (Robert Lewis- he did the Rolling Stones first concert in the US, worked with Elvis, Jimi Hendrix, ect.) and he is FULL of crazy stories. What is your favorite crazy story? Settling up a show with Bill Graham as a tour accountant for Aerosmith.
OR.
The night in Lubbock I first saw ACDC.
What's your view, as the manager, of the 'rock star mentality'? Wrecking hotel rooms and showing up to concerts late. What do you do when stuff like that happens? It hasn't happen on my watch in decades. sorry. it just doesn't happen anymore. no one wants to be banned from hotels.
Hey Peter! It seems you've worked with a lot of talented people that have been through a lot. Out of all the people you've worked with, what's the craziest story you've heard or witnessed? When bands were doing loads more drugs and booze, stories were generated.
Were you dealing with Metallica pre-Some Kind Of Monster? Whether yes or no, has their dynamic changed since? Been dealing with Metallica since 1985. dynamic has mostly stayed the same. the process around skom made everybody more aware, but we still function in the same way.
Of all the artist managers with whom I've worked, Q Prime (especially Holland back in the day) were the most real people of all. So thanks for contributing to that culture. Is it difficult to keep the ruthlessness of the entertainment business out of the everyday relationships with vendors and designers and such that support the more mundane aspects of your world? It's easy to keep the ruthlessness out because you know how it feels to be on the other end. especially with vendors and designers. shit, they do stuff I could never do.
What is working with these popular bands like? And which guitarist out of all the bands listed do you think is the best? It's the best day job i could have ever imagined. it's my life. not going to pick guitarists. gets me into trouble.
Hi, Peter -- thanks for returning here. Not sure if you can comment on this or not, but Jimmy's social media presence has been a bit sporadic the last 6 months or so - his official twitter and facebook accounts have been a bit quiet ... everything ok on that front? Do you know if his team will get back to it -- maybe hopefully with some exciting news? See answer below. Welcome to the world of managing Jimmy Page.
How did you get into the industry and what do you suggest to someone trying to break into it? Are there internships, etc? Or is it mostly a 'who you know' kinda field. There are internships and sadly it is a bit of who you know. but there are local radio stations, college radio stations, local clubs. people will usually take people looking to work for free or dirt cheap.
Hey Peter, I'm in a band and we experienced some moderate, early success but wonder what it takes to move beyond that our current stage of dealing with small indie labels, self-funding for recording, promotion, and publicity...etc etc. How do you prove yourself to be a wise investment, and how do you get the bigger label guys (we've gotten some nods from Kevin Lyman, Lou Plaia, and others are Warped Tour) to notice when your purse strings are pretty tight? How good are your songs??? that's the question. owning your masters isn't dumb, but you need to find someone to connect you to a larger organization to promote your records. It is very very difficult to break out of the indie label scene unless you are Arcade Fire or someone in Garden State says "the Shins will change your life"
Can you please convince Jimmy Page and Zep to do a US Reuinion tour?!!! Please? Please?? I don't even have a flip answer for this. it is a tragedy.
What do you sing in the shower? And would it take for the music industry to be really run from London ? I can't sing.
And part of the music business is run from London.
Do you party with your clients at all / often? If so, who is the most fun to be with after a show? Do I go out for dinner after gigs yes. do we party, no.
What is the best show you have been to? Acdc in Glasgow. highway to hell tour and LZ at O2.
Any Spinal Tap like moments? Proud to say we've avoided most of the Spinal Tap moments. but if you have a theory there, let it rip.
For concert shots, do you generally deal directly with photographers for your company/the artists or do you just purchase shots you like from freelancers when they strike you? What sort of things do you look for in a photographer if you deal direct? Sadly for you, I stopped caring about live photos - too many out there. the great photos are the off stage ones.
What personality/characters traits and other skills are necessary for someone to do what you do? Brains, compassion, love of music, trust your gut (a learned skill by the way)
What's the worst experience you had with a venue? Hall manager in lubbock in 1978 on July 4th.
How many people have asked you for a job in this thread? Fewer than you would have thought.
My friend just started a band and its taking off pretty well. I have some business acumen and he is wanting to get a band manager for his band because my friend is shouldering all of the work + a day job. I want to volunteer for this duty probono until they start making money. Am I foolish, is there something I need to know before stepping into this? Any advice is appreciated. Make sure he respects your talent as much as you respect his. and make sure your ambitions are in Vulcan mind meld as well. often baby managers get flushed when the band out grows the manager.
What advise would you have for a small Texas band that is starting to get play on smaller local radio stations in Arkansas and Texas to get to the "big time"? FYI we are not on a on a record label and are totally self financed thus far. Call the guys at C3.
Hello Mr. ÜberMensch :) Black Sabbath is touring again. Would you recommend seeing them? Sure, why not. I was never the biggest Sabbath fan, but they are legends.
How do you get started managing a rock band? I have a buddy who does it (and has become quite successful at it) while I do "real people" things and daydream about being involved in the music industry. TEACH ME YOUR WAYS. Get close to a good band. and convince them that you know things they should do that they haven't thought of. be a fan.
I love Dawes! Make them perform in NYC more! Please? Trust me, we're trying. we're playing Port Chester (NYC suburb) tonight. see you there. I'm the bald guy.
Will Gillian Welch be touring any time soon? Hopefully making a record. or a machine record.
Are you the guy who handed me a free front-row ticket at the Spectrum in '96 for Page/Plant when I answered your Led Zep trivia questions correctly? NOPE.
Whom, among all the acts/people you've managed, has the most sheer musical talent. John Frusciante Matt Bellamy Josh Groban this is under the concept of writers, players, singers, arrangers. Flea is an amazing bassist. Hetfield kills as a singer and a rhythm player.
I could go on.
A lot of musicians get sober after battles with addiction, what's the most amazing transformation you've seen. Mark Lanegan.
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